Curse

DaHun · Dec 17, 2005, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Just wondering if anyone of you guys have tried using echo on verata's sacrifice. It has worked wonders for me, healing my fiends twice as long etc works much better than heal area etc for monk, i just started experimenting with it and wondered what u guys think.

If there is another post about this lay it on me cause i searched and found nada. If you prove me wrong let the flaming begin lol.

Hendorr · Dec 17, 2005, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Never tried it with my necro, but It's a great idea, thanks alot! Should work great, gotta try this. Thanks for the idea!

mortalis doleo · Dec 17, 2005, 08:39 PM // 20:39

it's integrated into one of my minion factory ideas, and yeah... it works great.

DaHun · Dec 18, 2005, 03:14 AM // 03:14

K sweet well im having a little trouble figuring out what i can put into the last 2 spots THis what i roll w/ right now

Got 16 in death
And 13 in Reaping
Not sure where i could put rest.

Shyft the Pyro · Dec 18, 2005, 03:25 AM // 03:25

You should change Leech Signet into Resurrection Signet. Because 1) the monks should be healing and not Resurrecting in combat; 2) there will be situations where you'll want someone to come back with full health; and 3) no one should ever leave town without some way of Resurrection. Death Nova is pretty good with Taste of Death, so that should stay.

DaHun · Dec 18, 2005, 09:01 AM // 09:01

I was also looking at Dark Bond, so 75% of the dmg u take goes to the closest minion, might be a good thing for a invincinecro hehe.

Hendorr · Dec 18, 2005, 12:48 PM // 12:48

Don't take Darkbond, replace leech for rez signet. I think you're a good team player then: rez minnions. Party members must love you then

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lustymuffins · Dec 19, 2005, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Back to the original question. I use arcane echo on my necro effectively occasionally. It is especially good if you have a battery and boosted cast/recharge speed.

I usually have offering of blood to compensate if needed and arcane echo copies any spell i want so its a necessity imo.

need corpses fast? arcane echo, deathly swarm - get two deathly swarms and fire em off.

need minions fast? arcane echo, animate *, spam between the two using offering of blood to keep you at a decent energy level.

Do not feel bad about using taste of death, it is REALLY helpful, trust me.

as for dark bond... USE IT. PERIOD. Best spell next to V sacrifice.

BBoy_Manchild · Dec 21, 2005, 03:31 AM // 03:31

i find /R is better for MMs, serpents quickness and healing spring

Shyft the Pyro · Dec 21, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21

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Originally Posted by lustymuffins

Back to the original question. I use arcane echo on my necro effectively occasionally. It is especially good if you have a battery and boosted cast/recharge speed.

I usually have offering of blood to compensate if needed and arcane echo copies any spell i want so its a necessity imo.

need corpses fast? arcane echo, deathly swarm - get two deathly swarms and fire em off.

need minions fast? arcane echo, animate *, spam between the two using offering of blood to keep you at a decent energy level.

Do not feel bad about using taste of death, it is REALLY helpful, trust me.

as for dark bond... USE IT. PERIOD. Best spell next to V sacrifice.

Good points all, except maybe for Dark Bond. You shouldn't be close enough to the enemies to take any damage, so most of the time it will be pointless. When I brought it out to farm in the Furnace, I think I only got hit twice - and one of those times I had no minions to redirect the damage to anyway.

DaHun · Dec 25, 2005, 12:17 PM // 12:17

Ah yes but for doing solo runs like rune farming and basically anything solo it is awesome. Furnace u dont have to worry cause everything is on thewar.

Shyft the Pyro · Dec 25, 2005, 05:01 PM // 17:01

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Originally Posted by DaHun

Ah yes but for doing solo runs like rune farming and basically anything solo it is awesome. Furnace u dont have to worry cause everything is on thewar.

Well, if you're concerned with personal protection, consider Aura of the Lich instead. Its cooldown is shorter than duration, so you can keep it up continuously while receiving the healing from one of the castings ending every so often. While it doesn't reduce enemy damage in % considerations (both life and damage are halved), its greatest effect is reducing sacrifice damage by 4 (half for lower life, half again for Aura of the Lich effect). This synergizes well with all the undead-healing sacrifice spells, as well as Blood Renewal. The only downside, of course, is that you have to use Arcane Echo instead of Echo

judge1121 · Dec 26, 2005, 03:44 PM // 15:44

i personally use tainted flesh as an elite. kinda nice doing poison at helping kill ppl and then later i go and sumon some horrors. dark bond is not really needed. i sometimes prefer to die cause it sets of a death nova and with the disease and now the poison on them gives them a big degen and usually once i die they die with me. then a smart person resses me and i start with the horrors.

Shyft the Pyro · Dec 26, 2005, 04:52 PM // 16:52

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Originally Posted by judge1121

i personally use tainted flesh as an elite. kinda nice doing poison at helping kill ppl and then later i go and sumon some horrors. dark bond is not really needed. i sometimes prefer to die cause it sets of a death nova and with the disease and now the poison on them gives them a big degen and usually once i die they die with me. then a smart person resses me and i start with the horrors.

But the problem with the MM dying is that all the undead become neutral/hostile. Their dots on the radar turn red, and while they continue to attack the thing they were attacking when you died (which is probably keeping their aggro by attacking back) they can accidentally attack the party if aggroed.

Tainted Flesh is nice, but too many things are immune to poison as is, and if you want to make sure the enemy is poisoned you have to keep spamming it on all your minions

Death Nova is a very good spell, but it's very hard to place it on the right undead unless you plan to blow them up with Taste of Death immediately. The reason I prefer Aura of the Lich is that while it halves healing to you, it does not affect regeneration, so Blood Renewal or Healing Breeze is all that's required to offset sacrifice skills which do 1/4 of the original damage anyway.

Dmitri3 · Dec 26, 2005, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Rofl, guys. Look at the recharge of Verata's Sacrifice and look at the recharge of Echo.
Echo sucks in this case, better bring Glyph of Renewal so you can keep Verata's Sacrifice forever. And you can use Glyph of Lesser Energy when summoning a minion but you are low on energy.

This is funny how you waste elite on this... Echo is for spamming skills, not to use it on high recharge spells. lol